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blurr OP
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@user mrc:

true , but i want to say something

why would we rely on DC , surely he cant manage all of that he is already under pressure from developing Standard III and maybe many other things

someone who understands marketing and advertisements can help a lot with making advertisements to CS2D on different stages

i will say something that isnt important but it might help somehow : i remember the way i discovered CS2D for the first time was in 2022 when i was scrolling in steam games since most of games require modern pc requirements , so by sudden i found CS2D and i wanted to give a try for that game i opened and ...... what i found then was impressive , a lot of servers with dozens of players , and the game was actually enjoyable , moreover the game was lightweight back then thats why i liked CS2D a lot

what can you benefit from what i said is when you mention the game you have to say that the user can make his own scripts and this is one of the pros of the game , and surely we cant forget that the game is super lightweight as i said and mentioning this feature can bring a lot of players somehow because there are many people like me that own a dead pc and they are surely searching about a funny game to play with their pcs so thats why

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Let me summarise this thread in a nutshell and why it's pointless to keep going

* CS2D needs X feature!
- The engine needs to be updated, that requires a near complete rewrite from user DC, of which he is not interested in doing as he's preoccupied with his personal life and Stranded III.

* CS2D needs advertising!
- Advertising needs money, user DC isn't willing to dump money into a bottomless pit, and neither should you. CS2D will NOT make back a profit (or any money for that matter), and most players won't last for long enough to justify it either.

* CS2D needs gamepad support!
- That'll just postpone the inevitable. The game isn't future-proof, and will eventually die regardless of how much "support" you throw at it. Think of the STEAM launch, you get a bunch of players who only use STEAM, and then they die out as they get bored.

* CS2D needs to go open-source!
- If the game goes open-source, there's a small chance for some very dedicated set of developers to try and update the game, of which I doubt many would actually succeed. The ones that will succeed will either use their power maliciously by (best case) making the game pay2play (or add microtransactions/ads) or (worst case) add malware/adware to the game. This will of course backfire to user DC who'd need to start extinguishing fires created by other people, and as we've already established, user DC does not have the time required to handle such a task. The other developers that may use the power for good, would eventually realise that working on such an outdated engine is pointless, and after a few small changes, retire like user DC did. This would also create another issue, division between servers/players. Imagine trying to play CS2D and not knowing which source to download it from, the one made by user DC (vanilla) or the one made by "CoolDev67".

* CS2D needs someone else to develop it (instead of user DC)!
- We already have some dedicated (and trusted) members to do that, and they've reached the conclusion that it is not worth their time.

And now, what could actually "save" the game!
Someone needs to just make CS2D from scratch. Many tried, few are still going. But if at least one succeeds, the future would be promising.

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I’ve even considered rebuilding CS2D in Godot at one point. But then I started thinking — what happens after it’s finished? How would it reach people? Without proper visibility or marketing, it might end up in the same situation as the current CS2D, just with a different foundation.

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Very good and realistic summary user Mami Tomoe. I couldn't agree more. Thanks for that

@user mrc: Yep, it's tough. Even if you make a great new game there's no guarantee that it will succeed and be popular. That's the reality and you can't change it. That's probably one of many reasons why nobody finished a better, newer and more fancy CS2D yet.

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user mrc has written
I’ve even considered rebuilding CS2D in Godot at one point. But then I started thinking — what happens after it’s finished? How would it reach people? Without proper visibility or marketing, it might end up in the same situation as the current CS2D, just with a different foundation.


The only way to reach people is replace that version to the current one and boom, cs2d is back.

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Reading through this thread and I get where everyone is coming from. user user Mami Tomoe's summary is pretty spot on, and user DC's points about the engine being outdated are fair.

That said, I'd like to throw something out there. I've got some free time on my hands and I'd genuinely be willing to help out with CS2D in whatever small way might actually be useful - not talking about engine rewrites or anything that would put more on user DC's plate. More like Lua-side stuff, small QoL things, maybe helping out with bug reports, testing, documentation, whatever the community or user DC actually needs.

I know from earlier discussions that giving access to source code or reviewing outside contributions takes time too, and that's a real cost. So I'm not pushing for that. I just want to put it out there that if there's ever something smaller and self-contained that would help - even something boring like organizing stuff, writing guides for newer players, or anything community-side - I'm around and willing.

I love this game and I'd rather contribute something than just complain about activity. So yeah, offer's on the table if anyone (including user DC) ever sees a use for it.

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Everyone just move on now

I'm here making a map because I decided to hop back for some reason

Will anyone gonna play my map or doing some Defuse game?

This game is an empty desert now...

...and that suck. If I had a game and it die out like that, I would be sad, seeing all my work slowly forgotten, until no one metion it ever again.


"Hello? Is anyone there?
I said as nobody responded, I feel like I'm talking to myself and imagine ppl chatting and interacting thing, I miss the time man..."
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