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I'm curious as to how people here think it all started. This is not to cause a huge debate and riot, but I simply want to know. I personally believe in creationism, and that there is no other possible way, but I want to know what everyone else thinks. Maybe you think they are both fake? If so, what do you believe?

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Personally i think that the both are rea (first we where created and then we evolve)... with creation u mean that GOD create us? or what?

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I think that God created us. And he gave us the power to make ourselves evolve. In other words, we have evolution of intelligence, and free will.
It seemed to make sense in my mind at first.

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i agree with pupp3t,i think that God create us, because if God dont create us then where we come from?

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@Phenixtri
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This is not to cause a huge debate and riot, but I simply want to know.

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Religion & its institutions bring only death & violence under the guise of hope while science brings progress to the human species in both culture & evolution.

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I personally choose creationism.

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We are just a Species of Monkeys that is advanced Beyond most Organisms that Evolved on Earth , So Evolution is my opinion

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I'm asking a serious question here. Who or what is God?
Wikipedia has written
God is the English name given to a singular being in theistic and deistic religions (and other belief systems) who is either the sole deity in monotheism, or a single deity in polytheism.
God is most often conceived of as the supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.
This is what I believe too.
@Topic: I, as most others do, think that god made humans evolve. That's the best way to combine science with religion

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Yet all these religious books contain things which were impossible to know back then without the technology we have now.

also, Science can be considered a religion too.
search up the early science and where it came from in ancient mythology.

Religious people tend to have a better and happier life because they see life as something beautiful to enjoy and in other times to endure.

Atheists/non-believers or those who believe in evolution,
you think we live by "accident" therefore why are you living now? why not commit suicide? it's all an accident and there is no creator, so why live then? obviously there is no point in living, so why not end it then?

It's also been proven there are souls/spirits/consciousness that resides within our body, which is merely the vehicle in order to operate on this planet. search up NDE's (Near-death experiences) and they will all say about the same thing;

Floating above their body, feeling in oneness and purity and singularity and in synchronization with the universe and all life forms, heading towards a white light, other accounts say they first get "review" of their life, since birth to death, and how he/she affected other people. there is no "time" in their experience, it all happens in a split second or less. and this all happened when they were completely brain-dead, all 5 senses quit functioning, yet they experience something.

For those that say that the world would be a better place without religion, think to yourselves a moment, how would such a world really work?

Religionous teachings mostly contain those of peace and prosperity, union and love to oneanother, if a world was completely without religion, thinking life is nothing of importance and just an "accident", i.e has no meaning, there would be alot more crime, murder, rape, wars, etc.

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A whole lot of random bullshit


Learn some science , all other Earth-dwellers Relied on Evolution and not some Bullshit non-existent "God" story that's invented by a bunch of Nutjob Priests to earn them some money

As for your Believings in that without religion bullshit , Why don't you look at the Middle east , And at the Al Queda Terrorists , Obviously it's Religion that Caused them to do them Suicide bombings and Other Ethical Crimes

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My thoughts on whether we have something to live for on the other hand are:
We have no purpose on Earth, we are simply here on Earth for idk what reason (We could be aliens that came and swept the planet since we talk about aliens and about how they invade and conquer planets; Why could we also not be an alien specie that so happens looks similar to monkeys and those who are of the same genus.)

We have no purpose on Earth because all purpose have been and are created by humans besides the common purpose of surviving: eating,sleeping,surviving.
Without humans governing other humans we could do whatever we wanted and who cares?

Everything can be taken and put in different points of views. Any kind of theory could be used, such as :
Chuck Norris once took a large shit; 4 billion years later, the earth and the milky way formed around that large piece of shit (the sun).

Now, everyone can go and counter me because it is just that simple to find a argument that counters what other people think.

There is no creation or evolution. It is what humans want to believe. Well, at least until we Officially find it out, which would be a pretty long while in the future.


@Mindset, near death experiences are weird. Especially when you're 1 second apart from stepping on the street and getting crushed by that truck that just happened to be there.

Without religion people would have no hope to survive so uh.. idk

Simple this is what I'm saying:
Everything that happened and was discovered or invented was all by a human.
There ain't no right or wrong, it's just based on what the person views it as.

I believe in evolution just because evidence has been supported and it just naturally makes sense to me.

A ton of the shit i listed above is bullshit, like right after i say purpose of earth.... all the way to chuck norris taking a large shit

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Learn some science , all other Earth-dwellers Relied on Evolution and not some Bullshit non-existent "God" story that's invented by a bunch of Nutjob Priests to earn them some money

Ever heard of corruption of religion? Just because other people mis-use and mis-guide others doesn't mean the religion itself is at fault. Stop acting so gullible, and learn some grammar, and stop flaming like a child.

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As for your Believings in that without religion bullshit , Why don't you look at the Middle east , And at the Al Queda Terrorists , Obviously it's Religion that Caused them to do them Suicide bombings and Other Ethical Crimes

What about it? Every religion has its bad apples, but that's not what we are discussing right? Just because a tiny fraction of a certain religion does bad things doesn't mean the whole religion is wrong. Take into account the normal people living a normal life with their religion, that's the majority. If you took away religion from the world, there is no universal law or rule you abide by therefore people would have no reason not to commit crimes, so no a world without religion wouldn't be peaceful, but actually the opposite.

Also, you seem to be very stereotypical of the Middle-East, I've travelled to alot of countries, have you? Afcourse not. Al-Queda is funded by the CIA (proven and solidly documented), furthermore the acts they do is not based on religion. In this case, they do exactly the opposite things the Quran teaches people to do (love, peace, prosperity, wealth).

If a drunken driver crashes his car against a tree, who's at fault? The drunken driver or the car? It isn't the car's fault right? You think very close-minded. People have used Christianity for false things, does that mean the Bible is at fault? It teaches positive things, just because some mis-guided people do wrong things does not mean it's the religion's fault.

Furthermore, stop acting like a big kid and trying to flame me, nobody is attacking eachother here. Go play TF2 and do what little kids do instead of come to a forum and act like an immature whiney kid.

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Are you trying to teach us about Personal opinions?

also , i don't think religion gives people Hope for survival , not when Natural instincts for Almost every single freaking animal is Survival at all costs , Things want to live. go out and Pounce the nearest Woodland creature and Take a bite out of it if you want to Test natural instincts

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i don't think religion gives people Hope for survival
Have you ever even read a religious book? You don't even do research yet you are full of misconceptions and prejudgments. Religion mostly gives you meaning of life, that it has a purpose.

Also, "instincts" are derived from something, it isn't automatically there, it develops as you grow as a baby and a part is taken from your mother. Instincts is taken locally from your surrounding and those next to you, but what does this have to do with religion? Nothing.

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Wriggle has written
We are just a Species of Monkeys that is advanced Beyond most Organisms that Evolved on Earth , So Evolution is my opinion


That's not right, who invented the "monkey" species?

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"God created animals for the benefits of human beings."


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"Who hath created, and further, given order and proportion" [Quran translation by Yusuf Ali: Al-A'laa]


Watch this short documentary

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0TLgcNesU

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Well, I have to say that I wasn't expecting that much commotion over one topic! Though, it is one of the largest debates in human history. I was just doing this a test to see what everyone here thought. Seems you are all pretty sure of what you believe to be true! As I said before, I personally believe that we are God's creation. Quite interesting to read everyone else's views. (Note: I am not in any way judging or criticizing other viewpoints. I hate it when people do that)
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